2026-05-10
Subreddit: r/AskElectronics
Discussion: View on Reddit (15 points, 41 comments)
A learner playing the puzzle game Electronics Puzzle Lab ran into a confusion that trips up almost everyone the first time they meet digital logic: a NOT gate with nothing connected to its input still produces a HIGH output. To the beginner, this looks like a signal materializing from thin air — a violation of conservation. The 41-comment thread that follows is a lovely crash course in the gap between the abstract logic-gate symbol and the real silicon underneath.
The key insight from the responses: in digital electronics there is no such thing as "no signal." A wire is always at some voltage. What the game calls "no input" is actually the input being pulled to logic LOW (0 V, ground), and inverting LOW gives HIGH. In real CMOS or TTL parts, a truly floating input isn't "nothing" either — it's an undefined, high-impedance state that will pick up noise, oscillate, draw shoot-through current, and generally misbehave. That's why every datasheet insists on pull-up or pull-down resistors on unused inputs.
Several commenters take the explanation deeper, which is what makes the thread educational:
The thread is a great example of why beginners should bridge gate-level simulators with real breadboard work early — the simulator's clean abstraction is helpful for learning Boolean logic, but it actively misleads about how physical gates behave. Anyone moving from games like NAND-game, Turing Complete, or Electronics Puzzle Lab toward actual hardware should read this before they wire up their first 7404.
